2005 PTF Draft Review- QB’s
This will be my first attempt at using AI (Chat GPT) for a league atticle. What I’ve done is gone to the Chat GPT website and entered the following text:
”We play Madden 08 PC and our gameplay is CPU vs CPU. We put an emphasis on size and weight with usually taller and heavier players being valued more. Can you tell me what would your your top 5 QB's in our upcoming draft from the following uploaded file? BY the way our game play year is 2005 not 2025.“
Note: I am starting out by not uploading our sliders and league settings as I am just hooping for general info. I figure I can fine tune it as I like. I’ve started this research at 6:34 PM EST.
I went to our league draft setting and downloaded the incoming QB class. After I entered the above text into Chat GPT I uploaded a CSV file with the QB class and waited for Chat GPT’s answer. My plan is to note Chat GPT’s response then do a review of the top 5 QB’s, in my opinion. I’ll then compare the results and provide them to all of you.
Here was Chat GPT’s response:
Perfect, I’ve got the file
I’m going to rank these specifically for Madden 08 PC, CPU vs CPU, 2005-era tuning, and with your stated bias toward taller / heavier QBs (bigger hitbox, better sack survival, more stable sim results).
Below is my Top 5 QBs from your uploaded class, not based on real-life careers, but how they actually perform in Madden 08 sims.
Here was Chat GPT’s top 5 QB’s:
Top 5 QBs – 2005 Draft (CPU vs CPU, Size-Weighted)
Derek Anderson — 6’6”, 235
Why he’s #1
• Elite size for Madden 08 (78" / 235 lbs)
• THP 92 / THA 93 → rare combo in this class
• TGH 84 / INJ 84 → survives hits better than most
• Madden loves big-armed statues when simming
CPU vs CPU profile
• Strong pocket passer
• Less rattled by pressure than smaller QBs
• Very good long-term starter if AWR develops
This is the safest “big QB” pick in the class.
Kyle Orton — 6’4”, 228
Why he ranks this high
• TGH 96 (huge for CPU logic)
• INJ 89
• Good size + toughness combo
• Solid arm (THP 87 / THA 82)
CPU vs CPU profile
• Takes hits and keeps going
• Fewer injury spirals
• Doesn’t melt in bad offensive lines
• Madden 08 LOVES toughness on QBs. Orton sims better than his raw ratings suggest.
Andrew Walter — 6’6”, 230
Why he’s a sleeper
• Same height class as Derek Anderson
• TGH 94 (elite)
• Decent arm (THP 88 / THA 87)
Concerns
• Low AWR (55) → rough early years
• Needs time to stabilize
CPU vs CPU profile
• Big body prevents catastrophic seasons
• Strong long-term sim QB2 / spot starter
• Excellent value if not forced to start immediately
Classic “big-body Madden QB” that outperforms expectations by Year 3.
Alex Smith — 6’4”, 215
Why he cracks the Top 5
• AWR 71 (best in class)
• THA 86 / THP 87
• INJ 92 / TGH 84
Why he isn’t higher
• Lighter frame than your preferred archetype
• Smaller hitbox → more sacks than the guys above
CPU vs CPU profile
• Most mentally stable QB in the class
• Low meltdown risk
• Excellent system QB in West Coast / balanced books
If size mattered less, he’d be #1. With your rules, he slides a bit.
Jason Campbell — 6’5”, 235
Why he sneaks in
• Ideal Madden size (77" / 235 lbs)
• Strong durability profile
• Arm is good enough (THP 86)
Weakness
• THA 75 → accuracy volatility
• Lower AWR
CPU vs CPU profile
• Looks great physically
• Sim results swing year-to-year
• Best as a bridge starter or QB2
Classic “tools > consistency” Madden QB.
Notable Exclusions (Why They Missed)
• Charlie Frye – good ratings, but lighter and more erratic in CPU sims
• Dan Orlovsky – decent but lacks elite toughness or size edge
• Ryan Fitzpatrick – Madden CPU punishes his low physical upside
Quick CPU vs CPU Draft Advice
If you’re picking:
• Top 3 → Derek Anderson or Kyle Orton
• Mid Round 1 → Andrew Walter (long-term payoff)
• Safe QB room stabilizer → Alex Smith
• Depth / gamble → Jason Campbell
If you want, next I can:
• Rank them Year 1 vs Peak
• Match each QB to the best offensive playbook
• Flag which ones are injury landmines over 10+ seasons
I was able to do all the above in about 12 minutes.
Now, I am going to do what would be a normal type of top 5 player article that I would do and have done for years. I’m starting this part at 6:50 PM.
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Top 5 QB’s According to GM Mellon
What I did was reviewed a csv file of the incoming QB’s. I removed all QB’s with less than 80 AWR. That narrowed the list down to 7 players. I then removed a pair of players with 82 THA and 54 AWR. This left me with the following players and their most important (to me attributes):
Derek Anderson- 24 years old, 6’6”, 235#, College: Oregon State
AWR 65, THP 92, THA 93, INJ 84, TGH 84, SPD 50
Andrew Walter- 22 years old, 6’6”, 230#, College: Arizona State
AWR 55, THP 88, THA 87, INJ 84, TGH 94, SPD 52
Alex Smith- 22 years old, 6’4”, 215#, College: Utah
AWR 71, THP 87, THA 86, INJ 84, TGH 92, SPD 61
David Greene- 23 years old, 6’3”, 226#, College: Georgia
AWR 56, THP 89, THA 85, INJ 84, THP 99, SPD 65
Aaron Rodgers- 23 years old, 6’2”, 223#, College: California
AWR 63, THP 95, THA 80, INJ 95, TGH 99, SPD 64
Here’s how I rank these 5 QB’s and why:
#1.) Derek Anderson
He has the best THA of 93, 2nd best THP of 92, 2nd best AWR of 65 and has no chance of being a scrambler. He is however the oldest QB in the group at 24 years old. Regression will hit him the soonest so he must start right away and take advantage of training camps after that. An injury during his rookie year could really hurt him so taking him is not risk free.
#2.) Alex Smith
He has the best AWR which in an amazing 71. He had just barelt adequate THP of 87 though. A bad skew in THP could really hurt. He has good THA of 86 and would not be hurt too bad if it dropped during the skew. His INJ and TGH are fine but his 61 SPD does mean that he could end up a scrambler but it’s not ver likely. He has good height of 6’4” but might be a bit light at 215#. Still, I think he would clearly be my #2.
#3.) Aaron Rodgers
This is where I might begin to alter from other GM’s. Rodgers has the best THP which is 95 but he has the lowest (of the top 5) THA of 80. If his THA drops with the skew it could get a bit rough however I think he balances some of that concern out with his amazing health of 95 INJ and 99 TGH. There is risk of him ending up a scrambler but if he goes to a team with an active GM, I would not be concerned since he can be changed to balanced or pocket for 50,000 AP’s.
#4.) Andrew Walker
I like the fact that Walter is one year younger than my #5 QB . He has what I think is the best size combo out of any of these guys at 6’6” and 230#. His THP is 1 point under the next guy but his THA is 2 points higher. His INJ is fine at 84 ad his TGH is elite with 94. He has the lowest AWR of the top 5 with 55.
#5.) David Greene
There’s nothing to dislike here. I think Greene can be a franchise QB. I had not looked at the draft class until doing this article and I was very impressed thus far. All 5 of these guys should have a very bright career ahead in the PTF. Greene has good size at 6’3” and 226# but like a couple above might end up a scrambler. His AWR is 56 with 89 THP and THA of 85.
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So my part took about 40 minutes. This is prob on par with how long it would normally take me to do a top 5 article. I’m now going to compare my top 5 vs Chat GPT’s top 5:
Mine:
Derek Anderson
Alex Smith
Aaron Rodgers
Andrew Walter
David Greene
There’s:
Derek Anderson
Kyler Orton
Andrew Walter
Alex Smith
Jason Campbell
End comments:
I guess we were pretty close, sharing the top spot and 3 of the top 5. I think there can certainly be value in using Chat GPT for articles. My initial reaction though is, it is for sure much, much, much quicker. Perhaps the points might be too easy to have add up with Chat GPT alone. I will do at least a few more positions reviews to allow for more data and thoughts. Thanks to GM Darren Roberts for providing details on using Chat GPT. I think you have introduced a new and exciting aspect. If we need to tweak current rules/rewards so be it. In my early looking into it, I can see lots of value.
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